Roanoke Church of Christ

Month: November 2018


My favorite Bible teacher in college did something I’d never experienced before. He often gave tests using the compare and contrast method. Now, comparing and contrasting texts, especially those in which the “contrast” bordered on differences was new to me. Not only was it new, but it upset my general approach to the Bible, but I loved it.
My background with the Bible was pretty much “it said what it meant and meant what it said”, period. So to approach the Bible with a compare and contrast method was new and exciting to me.
On the other hand, it presents challenges. For example, compare and contrast among those who practice nonviolence and those who uphold the views of the NRA; the application of Matthew 5:38,39, “You have heard that it was said, ’Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person.”
You see, we read the same words, but we hear them differently. Of course, we were not there when they were spoken. We are unable to assess the words within their context. This leads us to understand and apply them to our present context and perceived reality.
Let’s take a test. It’s not compare and contrast, or even the dreaded essay type. Let’s make it multiple choice. I know true or false allow a 50% chance of guessing it right, but it’s my test. By the way, this is an open book test. I’ll tell you where the questions originate. We’ll start in Matthew 25:31ff.

1. In v. 32: Does “All the nations” mean :
a. All the Jews
b. All the Christians
c. Everyone on the earth
d. All of the above.

2. Also v.32: Are the sheep
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. The righteous from all nations
d. All of the above.

3. Are the goats
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. The unrighteous from all nations
d. All of the above.

4. Are the “hungry” and “thirsty,” v.35:
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. The hungry from all nations
d. All of the above.

5. Is the “stranger”
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. Anyone from all nations
d. All of the above.

6. Are those who need clothing
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. Any one
d. All of the above.

7. Are the “sick” v.36:
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. Those from all nations.
d. All of the above.

8. Are those in prison:
a. Jews
b. Christians who have been persecuted
c. Everyone
d. All of the above.

9. Who are the “least of these” v.45:
a. Jews
b. Christians
c. Anyone from all nations
d. All of the above.

10. In Luke 6:20, Are the “poor”
a. Those oppressed by the rich
b. The poor in spirit, i.e., Matt. 5:3
c. Those who have their treasure on heaven
d. All of the above.

11. When Jesus said to love one’s enemies. He meant:
a. Jewish enemies
b. Gentile enemies
c. Anyone who fits the label
d. All of the above.

12. When Jesus said if anyone tales your coat (cloak) give them your shirt (tunic) as well. Did he mean:
a. A fellow Jew
b. A fellow Christian
c. A poor person
d. Anyone.

13. Who is Jesus talking too in Luke 6: 20- 26:
a. Only his disciples
b. His disciples plus others
c. To everyone
d. All of the above.

14. When Paul wrote in Romans 2:14,15: “Indeed, when Gentiles who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them,” did he mean:
a. The ones Jesus mentioned in Matt.25
b. The ones Peter mentioned in Acts 10:34: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism, but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.”
c. All of the above
d. (I couldn’t help myself) Compare and contrast the above statements with John 14:6: “I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
The real test is how we apply our answers.


CONCERNS: Jo Wagner’s sister. Judy Powell is recovering at home. Jamie Cole, Joni Beach’s niece deals with continuing hydrocephalus issues. Alan Beach’s sister-in law, Tamela Beach has health issues. Also both of Joni and Alan’s parents. Wayne Flora ‘s mother, Martha. Del Bolin’s mother, Carrie. Remember the family of Dr. Christopher Mills, one of Del Bolin’s students who died suddenly. Donte McCadden, a young father with CF. Debbie and Ray Reiss’ son-in-law, David who is being treated for brain cancer. Teryn Gaynor’s mother and step dad; Wayne Phlegar is having more leg issues. Deanna McRoy; Debbie McRoy’s Linda Alsup and husband, Prentice; Bill Albert and Jim Hunter; Sheila Jansen and daughter, Amber Weaver; Marjorie Wilson; Melanie Gentry and family; Ray and Darnell Barns; Gil Richardson; Jim and Mary Smith and Tim Elder.

Today is the third Sunday of the month. On these Sunday’s we have someone or something different conduct the service. Today we will be learning about the writer of the songs we sing, as well as the motivation for the song itself . Susan Jordan, with help from others will do the readings and Del Bolin will lead the songs. Thanks Susan for doing the research.

Today is also Super Sunday. The fellowship meal will take place in the annex following the morning service. At the time of this printing on Thursday, it is cold and rainy. If it clears off enough, we will have a fire in the fireplace.
Also, the new fans are in place with additional lighting on each one. If you haven’t seen the annex since these additions, plan to stay and enjoy the ambience, the meal and good company.

Erma Williams has provided note cards for the Thanksgiving notes. If you haven’t taken one, do so because they will be read during the service today. They are on the foyer table.

Over the years we have canceled the Wednesday evening service before Thanksgiving because of travels and busy schedules. That will be true this coming Wednesday as well.

Among those who will be away is Martha and Bill Albert, along with Jim Hunter. They will be in Alabama.


The title comes from a well-know phrase, “Warts and all.” It is generally used to say that the truth and facts are being revealed. In other words the whole ugly truth and nothing but the ugly truth.
Its supposed origin comes from when Oliver Cromwell’s portrait was being painted by Sir Peter Lely. Cromwell, knowing the custom of painters making their subjects look better than they were, told Lely to “Paint me as I am, warts and all.” However, the evidence is that Cromwell never said that. Yet out of a made-up phrase we have a common-use statement. Question: Does the fact that Cromwell never said those words mean Lely never painted Cromwell’s portrait?
“Doctor Livingston, I presume.” Words often used in comic relief referring to the meeting of reporter Henry Stanley with the elusive Scottish missionary, Dr. David Livingston. It became the famous line from that meeting. However, the evidence is that those words were not spoken. Question: Because the words were factious, does that mean Stanley never met Livingston?
Admiral Farragut never said, “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!” He said, “Damn the torpedoes! Four Bells. Captain Drayton, go ahead. Jouett, full speed.”
Queen Victoria never said, “We are not amused.” Gilbert and Sullivan wrote that into the musical, HMS Pinafore.
James Cagney never said, “Mmm, you dirty rat” in the Movie White Heat.
Marie Antoinette never said, “Let them eat cake (brioche) during the French Revolution.
In none of his books about Sherlock Holmes, Arthur Connan Doyal never had Sherlock say, “Elementary, my dear Watson.”
Johnny Weissmuller never said, “Me Tarzan, you Jane.”
Captain Kirk never said, “Beam me up Scotty.” He said “Beam us up Scotty.”
Neither Eleanor Roosevelt, Anne Bolyn nor Marilyn Monroe said, Well-behaved women rarely make history”
It was David Hannum, who was suing P.T. Barnum for fraud, who said, “There’s a sucker born every minute”, not Barnum.
Nathan Hale did not say. “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.” It was a supposed summation of his thoughts by his sister about his death.
It was Israel Putman who said the order was, “Don’t fire ‘til you see the white’s of their eyes”, not Andrew Jackson.
No one on Apollo 13 said, “Houston, we have a problem.”
Gandhi never said, “Be the change you wish to see in the world.”
And finally, Voltaire never said, “I disagree of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Two sources are given for that statement, both in comments which were said to sum up Voltaire’s thinking.
Now, having given you a jump-start in the next game of Trivial Pursuit, let me review and ask a fundamental question.
Did Cromwell’s not saying, “Paint me etc.,” mean the painting never took place?
Did Stanley not saying “Dr. Livingston…” mean they never met?
The fact that Farragut never said, “Damn the torpedoes …” mean the battle of Mobile Bay never took place?
Did misquoting Marie Antoinette, Queen Victoria and James Cagney, mean they were not real people in real situations?
Are the works of Arthur Connan Doyal, fiction though they are, tainted by a famous line never uttered?
Is the history of Nathan Hale suspect because it attributed to him something he never said?
The answer to all these situations is, of course, “No”.
Question: Why is it then that when critics read the history of the Jews, the Hebrew Bible (OT) if they find anything that doesn’t line up (a simple example is the different numbers in Kings and Chronicles) they decide the Bible isn’t reliable? This is also true when reading the life of Jesus in the Gospels.
Admittedly, most of this has been caused by Christians who feel that if one line doesn’t match the other, the Bible can’t be trusted. This has caused all sorts of biblical gymnastics to smooth out, defend and sanitize passages seen as problematic. Notably, that the “Song of Solomon” (Song of Songs) is turned into an allegory rather than a poem about the love of a man and a woman. That some in the Jewish community see it as an allegory for God’s love for Israel is fine, as long as the original meaning isn’t denied.
If any historical document or person has to be discredited because of misquotations or misplaced “facts”, no historical evidence could be trusted.
All study and research is based on comparing and contrasting the sources and reaching a conclusion as to what is relevant and what is not. It is the relevant that is the foundation for truth, even in the Bible.

Announcements: Judy McWhorter
Serve Communion: Connie Crites
Maggie Foy
Steve Gaynor
Holly Wagner
Usher: Jeff Bland
Communion Care: Susan Phlegar
Singing: Scripture:
4-Scott Blessing Martha Albert
11-Karen Branch Joanne Elder
18-Del Bolin Steve Gaynor
25-Scott Blessing Debbie McRoy
Communion: Nursery:
4-Abraham Sirgy Susan Jordan
11-Wayne Flora Alisa Flora
18-Scott Blessing Holly Wagner
25-Wayne Flora Susan Phlegar
If you cannot serve, call Erma Williams.

6-Jo Wagner 15-Leena Bolin
28-Tim Elder 29-Jeff Martin

CONCERNS: Jo Wagner’s sister is now at
home. Keep the following people in your prayers: Wayne Flora’s parents, Del Bolin’s mother, Teryn Gaynor’s mother, Joni and Alan Beach’s parents, Debbie and ray Reiss’s son-in-law, Deanna McRoy. Linda Alsup and husband, Prentice, Gary Overstreet, Bill Albert, Jim Hunter, Sheila Jansen and Daughter, Amber Weaver, Marjorie Wilson, Melanie Gentry and family, Wayne Phlegar, Jim and Mary Smith, Ray and Darnel Barns, Gil Richardson, Tim Elder and Leena Bolin’s friend dealing with stress issues.

Megan and James Downing are going to be parents! Which means Jo and Keith Wagner will be great-grandparents. The baby is due in April. According to former member, David Maharrey, using some research, looking at the sonogram, it’s going to be a girl. We’ll have to wait and see.
By the way David and Stacy are having a boy in December.

Remember the Wednesday evening Soup Supper and Bible Study is now meeting again on a regular basis.. The study of the Gospel of John continues

Mike Branch continues with the study of the book of Acts.

After being gone over a month, it is nice to see Vivian Dugan back among us.

Even though this bulletin has the date of November 4th, most of you receive it via Email, so the reminder to set your clocks forward before going to bed on Saturday might be helpful.

A few years ago we had the children write Thanksgiving notes to be read. Then the congregation got involved. Considering the sad events of the past few months, if you’d like to write such a note they will be read on Super Sunday before Thanksgiving.