Roanoke Church of Christ



The title comes from a well-know phrase, “Warts and all.” It is generally used to say that the truth and facts are being revealed. In other words the whole ugly truth and nothing but the ugly truth.
Its supposed origin comes from when Oliver Cromwell’s portrait was being painted by Sir Peter Lely. Cromwell, knowing the custom of painters making their subjects look better than they were, told Lely to “Paint me as I am, warts and all.” However, the evidence is that Cromwell never said that. Yet out of a made-up phrase we have a common-use statement. Question: Does the fact that Cromwell never said those words mean Lely never painted Cromwell’s portrait?
“Doctor Livingston, I presume.” Words often used in comic relief referring to the meeting of reporter Henry Stanley with the elusive Scottish missionary, Dr. David Livingston. It became the famous line from that meeting. However, the evidence is that those words were not spoken. Question: Because the words were factious, does that mean Stanley never met Livingston?
Admiral Farragut never said, “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!” He said, “Damn the torpedoes! Four Bells. Captain Drayton, go ahead. Jouett, full speed.”
Queen Victoria never said, “We are not amused.” Gilbert and Sullivan wrote that into the musical, HMS Pinafore.
James Cagney never said, “Mmm, you dirty rat” in the Movie White Heat.
Marie Antoinette never said, “Let them eat cake (brioche) during the French Revolution.
In none of his books about Sherlock Holmes, Arthur Connan Doyal never had Sherlock say, “Elementary, my dear Watson.”
Johnny Weissmuller never said, “Me Tarzan, you Jane.”
Captain Kirk never said, “Beam me up Scotty.” He said “Beam us up Scotty.”
Neither Eleanor Roosevelt, Anne Bolyn nor Marilyn Monroe said, Well-behaved women rarely make history”
It was David Hannum, who was suing P.T. Barnum for fraud, who said, “There’s a sucker born every minute”, not Barnum.
Nathan Hale did not say. “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.” It was a supposed summation of his thoughts by his sister about his death.
It was Israel Putman who said the order was, “Don’t fire ‘til you see the white’s of their eyes”, not Andrew Jackson.
No one on Apollo 13 said, “Houston, we have a problem.”
Gandhi never said, “Be the change you wish to see in the world.”
And finally, Voltaire never said, “I disagree of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Two sources are given for that statement, both in comments which were said to sum up Voltaire’s thinking.
Now, having given you a jump-start in the next game of Trivial Pursuit, let me review and ask a fundamental question.
Did Cromwell’s not saying, “Paint me etc.,” mean the painting never took place?
Did Stanley not saying “Dr. Livingston…” mean they never met?
The fact that Farragut never said, “Damn the torpedoes …” mean the battle of Mobile Bay never took place?
Did misquoting Marie Antoinette, Queen Victoria and James Cagney, mean they were not real people in real situations?
Are the works of Arthur Connan Doyal, fiction though they are, tainted by a famous line never uttered?
Is the history of Nathan Hale suspect because it attributed to him something he never said?
The answer to all these situations is, of course, “No”.
Question: Why is it then that when critics read the history of the Jews, the Hebrew Bible (OT) if they find anything that doesn’t line up (a simple example is the different numbers in Kings and Chronicles) they decide the Bible isn’t reliable? This is also true when reading the life of Jesus in the Gospels.
Admittedly, most of this has been caused by Christians who feel that if one line doesn’t match the other, the Bible can’t be trusted. This has caused all sorts of biblical gymnastics to smooth out, defend and sanitize passages seen as problematic. Notably, that the “Song of Solomon” (Song of Songs) is turned into an allegory rather than a poem about the love of a man and a woman. That some in the Jewish community see it as an allegory for God’s love for Israel is fine, as long as the original meaning isn’t denied.
If any historical document or person has to be discredited because of misquotations or misplaced “facts”, no historical evidence could be trusted.
All study and research is based on comparing and contrasting the sources and reaching a conclusion as to what is relevant and what is not. It is the relevant that is the foundation for truth, even in the Bible.

Announcements: Judy McWhorter
Serve Communion: Connie Crites
Maggie Foy
Steve Gaynor
Holly Wagner
Usher: Jeff Bland
Communion Care: Susan Phlegar
Singing: Scripture:
4-Scott Blessing Martha Albert
11-Karen Branch Joanne Elder
18-Del Bolin Steve Gaynor
25-Scott Blessing Debbie McRoy
Communion: Nursery:
4-Abraham Sirgy Susan Jordan
11-Wayne Flora Alisa Flora
18-Scott Blessing Holly Wagner
25-Wayne Flora Susan Phlegar
If you cannot serve, call Erma Williams.

6-Jo Wagner 15-Leena Bolin
28-Tim Elder 29-Jeff Martin

CONCERNS: Jo Wagner’s sister is now at
home. Keep the following people in your prayers: Wayne Flora’s parents, Del Bolin’s mother, Teryn Gaynor’s mother, Joni and Alan Beach’s parents, Debbie and ray Reiss’s son-in-law, Deanna McRoy. Linda Alsup and husband, Prentice, Gary Overstreet, Bill Albert, Jim Hunter, Sheila Jansen and Daughter, Amber Weaver, Marjorie Wilson, Melanie Gentry and family, Wayne Phlegar, Jim and Mary Smith, Ray and Darnel Barns, Gil Richardson, Tim Elder and Leena Bolin’s friend dealing with stress issues.

Megan and James Downing are going to be parents! Which means Jo and Keith Wagner will be great-grandparents. The baby is due in April. According to former member, David Maharrey, using some research, looking at the sonogram, it’s going to be a girl. We’ll have to wait and see.
By the way David and Stacy are having a boy in December.

Remember the Wednesday evening Soup Supper and Bible Study is now meeting again on a regular basis.. The study of the Gospel of John continues

Mike Branch continues with the study of the book of Acts.

After being gone over a month, it is nice to see Vivian Dugan back among us.

Even though this bulletin has the date of November 4th, most of you receive it via Email, so the reminder to set your clocks forward before going to bed on Saturday might be helpful.

A few years ago we had the children write Thanksgiving notes to be read. Then the congregation got involved. Considering the sad events of the past few months, if you’d like to write such a note they will be read on Super Sunday before Thanksgiving.

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